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user Alistaire hat geschrieben
Yes like people were made to drink poison.

Our liver is there to break down the things that are either bad for us or we don't need, essentially both.. If we were not made for such things then how are we possible to have it?

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Drinking alcohol regularly does not increase your tolerance per se, it actually dulls your senses and you get the same amount of poison - you merely feel it less than you did before.

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user Mechanolith hat geschrieben
The difference is that it's already destroyed, that's no tolerance, but some kind of "anesthesia", if you understand me.

Yeah, I guess I know what you mean. But it somehow results in the same thing. I'm not saying that alcohol won't be bad for you then, but it is a known fact that an alcoholic can drink a lot more than someone who does not drink at all before both feel drunk/fall into coma/die. But I think I said this before.

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it is a known fact that an alcoholic can drink a lot more than someone who does not drink at all before both feel drunk/fall into coma/die. But I think I said this before.


They can't. It's just that the alcohol broke down everything in their body so they don't feel it.

Also, you call it 'Toleration' when a dam breaks down and land gets flooded? Like 'land tolerates water' or shit?

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@user Alistaire: Erm. No. Substances ending in -ol are alcohols. Not -anol.


Eth - anol

Meth = One
Eth = Two
Prop = Three
But = Four
Pent = Five
Hex = Six

Methanol, Ethanol, Propanol, Butanol, Pentanol and Hexanol are alcohols. Please don't start saying shit which you don't know about.

You are an idiot.

Ethane, methane, propane, butane, pentane etc. are alkanes. Alkenes are Ethene (IUPAC name, also called ethylene), buthene etc. There is no methene as it has only one carbon atom and alkenes need 2 carbon atoms. Alkynes are ethyne, butyne etc. Alcohols are ethanol, methanol, butanol etc.
The official rule is an -ol ending, not -anol.

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user Alistaire hat geschrieben
They can't.

Argh. The brain adapts to the disruption caused by alcohol. It's possible.
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Also, you call it 'Toleration' when a dam breaks down and land gets flooded? Like 'land tolerates water' or shit?

This is pure stupidity, comparing alcohol to the caused effects, the land has nothing to do with anything until the dam breaks. What is the land suppose to be in this comparison, please tell me.

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user palomino hat geschrieben
Alcohols are ethanol, methanol, butanol etc.
The official rule is an -ol ending, not -anol.


ARE YOU ACTUALLY FUCKING STUPID?

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user palomino hat geschrieben
Ethane, methane, propane, butane, pentane etc. are alkanes. Alkenes are Ethene (IUPAC name, also called ethylene), buthene etc. There is no methene as it has only one carbon atom and alkenes need 2 carbon atoms. Alkynes are ethyne, butyne etc. Alcohols are ethanol, methanol, butanol etc.
The official rule is an -ol ending, not -anol.


Ethane Methane etc. are alkanes
Ethyne Methyne etc. are alkynes
Ethanol Methanol etc. are alkanoles

Eth = two, Meth = one.

Also, alkanoles == alcohols

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user Yates hat geschrieben
This is pure stupidity, comparing alcohol to the caused effects, the land has nothing to do with anything until the dam breaks. What is the land suppose to be in this comparison, please tell me.


Yes it's a worse comparison than the one with the city.

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The suffix -ol in non-systematic names (such as paracetamol or cholesterol) also typically indicates that the substance includes a hydroxyl functional group and, so, can be termed an alcohol.

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user Alistaire hat geschrieben
ARE YOU ACTUALLY FUCKING STUPID?

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poison STACKS in your liver, it doesn't fucking go out with your urine bro.

Had to be posted.

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@user Alistaire:
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The suffix -ol in non-systematic names (such as paracetamol or cholesterol) also typically indicates that the substance includes a hydroxyl functional group and, so, can be termed an alcohol.


Alkanoles -> C n H 2n+2 O

Stuff ending on -ol INCLUDES alkanoles, which are popularly called alcoholes.

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The page said;

'Words ending on -ol, in non-chemistry related names (such as paracetamol *which is a drug* or cholesterol *which is a fat*) indicates that the thing includes a Water-Carbon-Oxide structure and so can be called an alcohol.'

This has nothing to do with what you said before, therefore you failed once again.
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user Alistaire hat geschrieben
Alkanoles -> C n H 2n+2 OH

C2H5OH is ethanol. Let's correct your math. If n = 2, then the formula should've been C2H6OH, according to your example.

The real formula is C n H 2n+1 OH

In you is great the amount of fail, young padawan.

Also, a hydroxyl functional group is OH, Oxygen-Hydrogen, and not Water-Carbon-Oxyde.
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user Alistaire hat geschrieben
C n H 2n+2 OH

user Alistaire hat geschrieben
C2H5OH == C2H6O

According to your formula, it should be C2H6OH and not C2H6O. So please, don't start an argument over a subject you know nothing about.

EDIT: I just loved how you edited the "H" out in your previous post

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user palomino hat geschrieben
don't start an argument over a subject you know nothing about.


user palomino hat geschrieben
Alcohols are ethanol, methanol, butanol etc.
The official rule is an -ol ending, not -anol.


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You make me and other Chemistry students sick.

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user Alistaire hat geschrieben
You make me and other Chemistry students sick.

This whole thread is making me sick.
Just end this, pointless and will never go anywhere important.

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user Alistaire hat geschrieben
You make me and other Chemistry students sick.

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C n H 2n+2 OH

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Alistaire, you should learn to stop. It is true that not everything that ends with -ol has alcohol in it (Paracetemol for ex.), but they mostly do, and it is also the correct term. If you still feel that we are wrong, please give me a link or anything that proves that -anol is correct and -ol is wrong. Yet I don't think you will find anything.

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user Yates hat geschrieben
If you still feel that we are wrong, please give me a link or anything that proves that -anol is correct and -ol is wrong. Yet I don't think you will find anything.


There is no link. My chemistry book says so and if you don't believe it I'm not gonna scan it.

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Alkanes, Alkynes and Alkanoles (Alcohols) are homologous hydrocarbons. (...)
Meth-, Eth-, Prop-, But-, Pent- and Hex- are prefixes for homologous hydrocarbons (...)
The homologous formula for Alkanoles is 'CnH2n+2O', in which 'n = Carbon atoms' (...)
Alkanoles are systematically named: First comes a homologous prefix, which is followed by -anol, the suffix for every Alkanol.
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