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14.01.22 01:02:13 am
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your ideas are over explained. relax, let DC make is game
14.01.22 05:16:30 pm
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In your "right in the face" post (post#88 september 15, 2019) I wasn't a real fan of the flat face, so I drew a side profile of what I thought the stranded guy should look like, and here it is: https://www.mediafire.com/view/843rrx93pycuptg/20220213_173717.jpg/file

Also, while I was at it I made a quick sketch of what a native could look like: https://www.mediafire.com/view/zbvbdagn82mepzl/20220213_173924.jpg/file

Carried away, I drew a concept picture of the plant generation idea I had: https://www.mediafire.com/view/jnl5w6l4ar77n8p/20220213_174031.jpg/file

After, I had an interesting idea of a concept P2P stranded III server, and I drew that: https://www.mediafire.com/view/boz8gcje32rffk6/20220213_174716.jpg/file

After, I got carried away and drew a bunch of random survival tools and stuff: https://www.mediafire.com/view/sxxuza4674yjj7v/20220213_174747.jpg/file

Afterwards I had and Idea to do with item saving/loading: https://www.mediafire.com/view/hywnhsnk8ont171/20220213_174918.jpg/file

And then I drew a picture of a wooden spear: https://www.mediafire.com/view/fg0kug9jl8vvgi0/20220213_175005.jpg/file

Anyway, I like the new optimized map saving. Also, it could possibly be used for an optional p2p multiplayer, or some derivative of that.
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file stranded2 Stranded II Enhanced +Videos (3) thread stranded2 Stranded II Enhanced +Videos another update is planned with stuff from s2ext (including the mining system), survivalist, S2NL, kidnap mod, realtex, titanium, cast away, s2lis, city mod, and so on. Probably releasing in August.
14.02.22 07:02:13 am
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Is there still anything major missing for an early version of Stranded 3?
14.02.22 06:17:56 pm
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@user ModJuicer: Thanks for sharing that. Interesting.

@user Alpha Beta: Yes, a lot. I guess the worst part is character movement (player and NPCs) which is quite annoying to do with raycasts. I'm already considering to switch back to Unity's character controller and to live with all its annoying quirks and bugs...
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14.03.22 01:31:49 pm
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Where is our delicious bread model?
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20.03.22 01:03:16 pm
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@user Salad Fingers: Haha, someone following me on Sketchfab there? Will be part of the next dev blog
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22.03.22 07:40:25 pm
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This isn't meant to be bashing or anything, but, DC, are you chugging along with the development of S3 on purpose? I mean, if it were released, it would just feel out of the ordinary, wouldn't it? A game you've been working on for 10 years at this point, notifying your community for so long, having them expect a playable version, being suddenly released? Would you compare it to a song or a novel some people write their entire lives, and publish it at the very end? Do you feel there wouldn't be anything to work on once it's released, so you've kept slowly developing it as a pass time for a decade? Do you feel it's incomplete, and won't ever truly be complete?

Sorry if I seem like I might've come off as an ass with this post, it isn't my intention.
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22.03.22 10:30:03 pm
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@user T-69: Interesting questions. I'm not chugging along on purpose. There are multiple reasons why things are taking much longer now. I have a full time job and less time (my other projects were developed when I was a pupil or student). I also made some games already so there's less fascination and motivation to finish/achieve something. Moreover times changed and soooo many great games are released these days which is also kind of demotivating for me as a developer because there already are so many good games and there are less gaps to be filled.

It sure would be something special to release it some day. No question about that. I'm also sure that there would be more than enough to do for me after a release. Patching and improving the game and also other new projects.

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Do you feel it's incomplete, and won't ever truly be complete?

In short: yes.
The longer answer: I guess every developer always knows things which could be improved in their projects. There's no "complete" in software development. One could of course define a strict feature list and say the game is done when everything on that list is implemented and when there are no known "critical" bugs anymore but that's not what I do.
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23.03.22 11:19:58 am
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@user DC: i love the new screenshots in the latest blog, im always excited to see what else you come up with, hard to believe S3 has been in development for something like 11 years now, but it's always an interesting read, whatever it is you've been working on.
23.03.22 03:03:17 pm
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DC is a good lad, we honor and respect him a lot.
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24.03.22 03:01:10 pm
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I'm probably in a bit of a minority here, but as a fellow game developer I enjoy watching the process user DC blogging about the development of S3 far more than I will probably enjoy playing the game itself - and it's mostly down to blogs like that that I decided to go into game development in the first place.

I see why it might be frustrating to some watching and waiting for S3 to be released, but I'd much prefer to have a game developed with love and dedication over 20 years than one thrust out in 9 months of stress and pressure - that's what we have commercial titles from dedicated studios for. And there really isn't a lack of those in the market!
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29.03.22 04:00:31 pm
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Yes, those blogs are fun. But they would be too after the game was released and the blog entries were announcements of ever improving releases ...

I really hope, you decide to do something like that – release a (totally incomplete) version that allows only for the most basic gameplay. It might spark new motivation and overcome a tendency for perfectionism, maybe? Anyhow, it would be a huge gift for the community.

Even if you realized barely the mechanics of S2, the jungle-feeling in your last entry excites me just to walk along and collect some wood by punching trees for hours

If you ask me, you don’t need another gap.
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30.03.22 11:58:01 pm
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user DC I have to agree with user Klirkz on his suggestion, as much as it may be a difficult thing for you to do. It is the case, though, that as more time gets taken up by work, there are always people with spare time and no shortage of interest or skill.

While there may be bugs you know of that other people aren't aware of, the more time you give them to discover these, the more well-documented they will be for their benefit as well as your own benefit. That's the reason wikis are so successful and useful.

Now, I'm sure there is some worry about what the internet hooligans could do with the source code and etc. but by using open source methods, people can patch vulnerabilities and also report versions of the game on other websites being used for bad purposes (ie. monetization, virus-injection, or claiming unmerited ownership) and take necessary action. I feel like the unreal software community is responsible enough to handle any hurdles along the way, and I think many will agree with that.

If you decide to take that route, I recommend starting a new project thread (as well as a comments thread) for development of open source versions of Stranded 3, and have admins take down any unnecessary or unrelated posts, such that it would be more or less in the same manner as your own dev blog on stranded 3, but with different people contributing.

Download links for files including the fixes/changes presented in blog posts would be necessary, as would management of said links to avoid malicious content or posts.

Anyway, I've said my piece. If someone has a better idea, feel free to discuss it.
file stranded2 Stranded II Enhanced +Videos (3) thread stranded2 Stranded II Enhanced +Videos another update is planned with stuff from s2ext (including the mining system), survivalist, S2NL, kidnap mod, realtex, titanium, cast away, s2lis, city mod, and so on. Probably releasing in August.
31.03.22 11:47:42 am
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Keeping game open-sourced means more vulnerabilities since there will be multiplayer function. I bet that game will be very flexible in case of modding it so no need to have it open sourced. It is also hard to maintain whole internet to prevent any shady modifications of any source of any software, especially when DC is mostly alone right now
02.04.22 11:14:14 pm
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user Assassin moder unfortunately you are right about a lot of that. However, among security forums I have heard that open source can lead to better security, but that may be only under controlled circumstances.

The main issue I foresee would be quality control. I suggest a controlled release if user DC views open-sourcing as on option for early release.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software_security

Of course, this is user DC's choice to make, and I should emphasize that. I don't want him to feel obliged to make a choice he doesn't want to make, in case that is the message my posts seem to send.

At the end of the day, there is no hurry.

There may be scores of other games online, but it is worth remembering that the only real competition is among the high-paid over-budget developing studios that lead the commercial gaming sector.
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03.04.22 12:59:22 pm
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In general open source is positive for security under the right circumstances.
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Making SIII open source is currently NOT an option to me. The reasons are basically the same as the ones for not working in a team (read Development section here for details). In short: I don't want to manage the work of others. I want to create & develop.
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06.05.22 09:11:11 am
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@user Assassin moder: You have some very valid point, but i have to say: It's a common misconception that opensource is a security vulnerability in any way.

Pentesters or hackers don't even bother reading the source code most of the time, it's much easier just to throw some automatic tools at a problem and see what happens. OpenSourcing a software is more likely to improve security since other people can look through the code and notice any vulnerabilities.

But yes, maintaining is additional work and i can understand if DC does not want to do that.
23.05.22 01:34:37 pm
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I'm glad too see so much progress! but... personally I don't like Bloom effect, it would be nice to have options to disable/enable most post-effects
23.05.22 02:30:12 pm
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user Assassin moder has written:
Keeping game open-sourced means more vulnerabilities since there will be multiplayer function. I bet that game will be very flexible in case of modding it so no need to have it open sourced. It is also hard to maintain whole internet to prevent any shady modifications of any source of any software, especially when DC is mostl Soy a lone right now


Sometimes when you're open-source'ing your game, it might become a vulnerability to malicious people. I think you can make your game open to the others but you might hide any important files from them, like connecting user to USGN service, server or anything.
23.05.22 08:01:28 pm
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user Assassin moder has written:
I'm glad too see so much progress! but... personally I don't like Bloom effect, it would be nice to have options to disable/enable most post-effects

That's already built-in. You can enable/disable all of them. For most you can even control the intensity.
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