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version 0.1.0.4 down when max releases?
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First of all, DC you did a great job on Max regardless the bugs.
This might be a stupid question But i've seen people discussing about "i'd rather stay on version 0.1.0.4", so will the old cs2d still work when the final cs2d max is released?
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version 0.1.0.4 down when max releases?
22 repliesFirst of all, DC you did a great job on Max regardless the bugs.
This might be a stupid question But i've seen people discussing about "i'd rather stay on version 0.1.0.4", so will the old cs2d still work when the final cs2d max is released?
why am I doing this? it's just because the new cs2d IS better! I don't want people to play the old one. of course everyone has to get used to the new version first but it's truly worth the change in my opinion.
I don't understand your concerns: After all, the new client is completely for free like the old one and I don't see that CS2Dmax lacks anything what CS2Dold had.
I would like to see that the players of CS2Dold are still able to play for some time after the stable release of CS2Dmax although in my opinion the old server list may shut down after a few months of coexistence of both versions, so that there is only the USGN message with upgrade instructions.
all you need is a webserver and some php scripts.
don't ask me how these scripts have to look like. you can see it in the source code. its a pretty simple structure.
everyone could easily change the host by changing
temp/usgn_host.inf
TheKilledDeath has written
what do you mean? another server which hosts the server list for the old cs2d? then you would have to have the source code to switch the server list in the game.
you don't have to change the sourcecode, the serverlist host is in the temp directory of the game. The script basically has 3 parts, a setserver, deleteserver, and get serverlist. And those who wishes to continue playing on the old game would only have to change their host.
I've already created a subfolder and tested if I could upload PHP files, which was successful. So I think I can host the serverlist.
I could store the serverlist here or something >> serverlist
Trying to learn some basic PHP.
edited 1×, last 30.07.08 11:50:35 am
The point is to get Max fully populated and let the old one die out, you guys are trying to attack that position.
Some people might want to play the old one sometime.
KimKat has written
Lol, matter of fact is that people still like the v0.1.0.4 version of CS2D and I'm willing to host the serverlist somewhere.
Some people might want to play the old one sometime.
Some people might want to play the old one sometime.
Your basically saying that ''people like CS2D 1.0.4 more then CS2D Max'' because why would you play the old CS2D if you think Max is better? Afcourse people play the game they think is better, and if any guy plays the old CS2D then he must think that that is better then Max right? Well Max isn't even finished yet, first of all..
Alot of people don't bother searching for all features of Max, they download and join a quick server and decide in 5 minutes whats better without even knowing that there are RPG Launchers, new commands, new options, molotov cocktails, CTF mode, maptransfer, spray transfer, etc.
So what ur saying is kind of incorrect, because Max isn't fully done yet so people cannot say ''CS2D is better then Max'' because its NOT even DONE YET! If Max is done, and the person knows every new feature of Max, THEN he can decide whats better and what he plays.
But since Max isn't even fully out yet so what ur saying is incorrect. It's not a fact.
KimKat: Lol, matter of fact is that people still like the v0.1.0.4 version of CS2D
KimKat has written
yea i still like old cs2d kimkat can perhaps help host servers? I like CS2D 0.1.0.4 and I will probably like CS2D max even more, but what if you want to play the old one? that's why I'm willing to host a serverlist.
I would just need the body and the information how the php script looks and i could try
We're not saying max is better the cs2d. If an overview like the one you've provided applies universally, in this case it must to be logical, then why do people still play CS1.6? Why do people still play CoD1 and 2? Why do people still play older games when newers ones are out? Because they like the newer version, but believe that the old version still has some replay values. Would I play cs2d0.1.0.4 after max is out? Sure I would, in fact I'm currently developing an almost complete DM Server for 0.1.0.4 even in anticipation of Max.
And for anyone here interested, the scripting for the host comes in 3 parts. 2 of which takes arguments through the post method
The first of which is sv_save.php. The physical script on the usgn server is located at:
http://usgn.unrealsoftware.de/game_cs2/sv_save.php
the post arguments would look something like this (replace the space with %20 since the correct URI format have no spaces.):
game=Counter-Strike 2D&port=36963
The script then get the IP of the request. Processes it, and create a dynamically-linked list that links the ip to the port.
Then comes the sv_kill.php:
http://usgn.unrealsoftware.de/game_cs2/sv_kill.php
the post arguments looks like:
game=Counter-Strike%202D&ip='127.0.0.1'&key='*'
The function of sv_kill is somewhat more advanced. Not only does it require an ip, but it also requires a verification key.
To calculate this key, 3rr0r from Storm have written a handy python script in his dedicated server. I have disassembled the script and coded the following back together:
def key():
add = ip.split(".")
key = (((((int(add[0]) * 3) + (int(add[1]) * 8)) - int(add[2])) + (int(add[3]) * 5)) - 9346)
return key
since the syntax of this code may seem a bit messy, I'll give a brief explaination:
first of all you split the ip by the "." delimitor, which will return a list with 4 items [a,b,c,d] for simplicity's sake. The main calculation of the key is as follows:
(a*3 + b*8 -c + d*5) - 9346
After that, if the key provided by the post argument and the key calculated matches, do a check to see if the request is actually done by the said IP (this is what usually cause the dead IPs in game from dynamic hosts), after which delete the ip and port entry from the serverlist database.
The sv_load.php is used by the game to get the serverlist. It only has one argument game=Counter-Strike%202D and it'll return the following information:
status: Return 1 or 2
version: current version of the game, checked by the client
number: Returns the total number of entries in the server list
ip: Returns the ip location of one server. This value will be returned numerous times depending on the numbers of entries
port: Returns the port of one server. This value will be returned numerous times depending on the numbers of entries
msg: Returns the news to be displayed after the client connects to the serverlist
It would also be best if the sv_save could send out a packet that consists of 2 bytes, 250 and 0, which is the code to "ping" and retrieve the server information
And so that basically sums up the inner workings of the server list. Oh, and if you do finish, make sure you make the changes in your temp fold as well
I think it's really cool, how you reload and it shows, your "Players" hand movement.
What i dislike about "CS2D beta 0.1.0.5 version" would be the "Players" movement speed. He walks way too slow.
The AWP is way too easy, you can zoom in twice swap to Deagle then back to AWP scoped in, and kill someone really easy.
What pisses me off the most is when someone joins your game and "Game Commences" for example, I'll be on let's say 60 kills 2 deaths, then someone will join my server and it will reset everything.
I hope he releases a new beta version soon,
with these features added:
* Team Autobalance
* Warmode
* Working commands (sv_restart, sv_warmode etc... )
* Faster Movement
* Less Bugs